(Continuation from yesterday)

Ebata: "I have worked with people in so many countries, China, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, India... and I have got a lot of help from them.

JD:"And ?"

Ebata:"If I send a hate message that insults the people in a certain country, how do them feel about me ? Just thinking that, I'm scared. "

JD:" How do you think "how they think about you"?"

Ebata: "It's easy to understand if I were in the opposite position. I think that they will "feel sad" before "get angry". That means all days when we have been working together will be all ruined,"

JD:"In other words, the "state" for you is not a "government of the country", but something that is composed of "acquaintance of you""

Ebata:"That's right. Well in opposition, "my acquaintance" is also a person who forms the concept of the state ..."

JD:"?"

Ebata: "I cannot deny me feeling that if the person who worked together is an unpleasant person, I come to think the person's place of birh of him/her tends to an unpleasant state.

JD:"What?"

Ebata: "Especially, the impression of a certain European country is still the worst for me, even it is a country with a wonderful history and art."

JD: "... Ah, That's "it" isn't that?"

Ebata: "But even if so, the object we feel uncomfortable, angry, hate, should be thoroughly "private person". It must not be a "state".

JD:"..."

Ebata: I think that the reason for extending minus passions to ethnic groups and nations, is basically that "the effort to see the outside world" is "desperately lacking"

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JD: "Well, well, it may be so, but ..."

Ebata:"What?"

JD:"I feel that いt is just for a person like you, who can have a spirit of walking around the world with a backpack during young period, and has been in a position to work with overseas people now. It is "condescending attitude".

Ebata: "Well, if you say so, I am a little troubled, but ..."

JD:"As all humans cannot behave like you, I think that it is unfair "violence" that you use your standard to others."

Ebata:"But, it is also a problem of "defiant attitude" as violence, "I have no chance, so it cannot be be helped, because I have no financial resources or mental power, I am a weak position, so I can do anything, and should be forgiven"

JD:" You said "defiant attitude" as violence, did you?"

Ebata:"Yes"

JD:"What's that?"

Ebata: "Let me think, for example, how about a state that is advocating socialism on the north side of the Korean Peninsula?"